[quote:Martin] Yeah ... Bill's an amazing educator ... Live with Live will be out before the end of August. I can't wait ... :) We're putting a renewed focus on Live training. In the year ahead it's going to look a lot more like our Logic training for quality and content.[/quote] That's great news! I think there are a lot of things to learn in Live. From Simpler to Sampler, and Operator. But also stuff like what DJ Gustavo Bravetti does. (Go check his Ableton Live demo videos on YouTube... pretty interesting stuff!) What's "Live with Live"? On which video is that covered by Bill Burgess? I know that what I am waiting for is definitely Max for Live. I am a programmer and I followed a short course on Max/MSP. So I am pretty exited about that.

Live with Live is an upcoming tutorial, its not yet released. Re: MAX for live sounds super interesting, but from what I can tell its more about programming than making music. You get caught up in the details of the code and hours go be without any music being made.... Coming from a programming background, that is a big rabbit hole for me to fall through! I already have too many distractions in the form of plugins and hardware! I like that DJ Gustavo! I really dig the whole "Controllerism" thing.

[quote:JohnG]Live with Live is an upcoming tutorial, its not yet released.[/quote] Where is this tutorial mentioned exactly? I can't find any trace of that? That should be interesting. Cheers.

If you blink your ears you will miss it. Listen to the new Live 8 tutorial at lesson 96: "Follow Actions" at the 40 seconds mark for the reference to Live with Live.

[quote:JohnG] If you blink your ears you will miss it. Listen to the new Live 8 tutorial at lesson 96: "Follow Actions" at the 40 seconds mark for the reference to Live with Live. [/quote] Wow. You are right. I did miss that. You really have to pay attention. Thanks!

Just a quick q for Bill: When is the Live with Live coming out?! After the beginners one I'm checking this site every day in hope it'll come out.

Looking forward to "Live on Live" ... any idea of release date MPV?

As soon as we know (and it's close enough to a date for release) you'll know too ;-) Best Rounik

The new tutorial was supposed to come out ages ago, I wonder what went wrong? I really want to buy Live with Live, please hurry up...

Sorry guys. No ETA on this. I don't have details but it won't be available for a while.