Way back when dinosaurs roamed the earth, I started recording with a digi 001 unit and Pro Tools LE. I switched to Logic a few years later, and now pretty much use Logic for everything and only use the Digidesign hardware. I keep having to update my pro tools for the drivers for my digi 002 unit, but otherwise everything up until now has been okay. And figured can't hurt to have pro tools on my system. current pro tools version 8.0.1 So finally upgraded to Snow Leopard, and decided to take Logic in 64 bit mode out for a spin. Sad surprise! Logic in 64 bit mode will not recognize the Digi 002. I'm guessing that's because digi (or I guess they're now Avid Audio), has not put out a 64-bit driver. Is there any workaround that anyone knows of to get Logic to recognize a digidesign interface? Thanks for any help you may be able to offer. best, M

It's now working in 64-bit mode! It turns out that, even though my version of Pro Tools itself was telling me (if I ran the "software updater") that it was up to date, there were several new versions once you dug a little deeper at the AVID site. Once I installed the updated Pro Tools AND the new driver, everything seems to be working fine, even in 64 bit mode! Thanks for your recommendations. I have my eye on the apogee ensemble, but that's quite a chunk of change, so glad I'll be able to get some more use out of the ol' digi 002.

I'm going to go back and answer this, even though it's resolved, just in case anyone else finds themselves in the same boat. Yes and no. Yes, Logic worked with the interface in 32 bit mode (and not 64 bit mode) before I installed the new driver, and no, Logic wouldn't recognize the 002 in either 32 bit or 64 bit mode after I installed the new driver. Which was really a drag, because I thought I was going to just have to go back to 10.5.8 just to get everyone talking again. As I said below, Pro Tools, lovely program that it is, was telling me through it's own updater that 8.0.1 was the current version. Through some investigative gymnastics, I found out that there was an 8.0.4 available, and I downloaded that and installed it, and that is what made logic and the interface like each other again. Now everyone is talking and playing nice, even in 64-bit mode. Best wishes, M

yeah, very strange. I'm told that's not a big surprise with Avid, but yeah, at least I can keep my $2,000 for the Apogee for the time being...though I suppose eventually it's going to have to happen anyway.

I think I've seen something about this before, but searching the forum I couldn't find anything, so please excuse me if this has been asked and answered before. I've found a green apple loop I want to use in a song I'm building (around a sound I came up with using Steve H's brilliant tutorial on the ES 2!). Specifically, it's called "DnB Haunted Beat." Trouble is, when I bring it in as a "green" (i.e. "editable") loop, it loses the sonic characteristics that made me want to use it in the first place. Is there any way to keep the loop editable, and keep all the cool sounds intact? Thanks for any help you can offer. best wishes, M

Thanks Rounik, Not quite the answer I was hoping for, but it is what it is. So basically, you're saying I have to figure it out for myself. I don't know. Apple is asking for a lot of self-sufficiency here. I bet Mrs. Reginald Maudling doesn't have to go through the drudgery of figuring out just by listening what plug-ins are auxed into her green apple loops. No, it would all be done for her. (And if you're not a python-phile, that whole last bit is probably lost on you). But seriously, this seems like kind of a big flaw in the system. I hope it's something coming in the next upgrade that when you add a green loop, you can get the same sound as in the preview, and it brings in all the necessary aux tracks and plugins as well. Maybe at the very least they could put out a database that lists if not the settings, at least the plugins used. Just an aside, do you know why some of the plugins are bypassed? I've tried turning them back on, and it still doesn't get the loop sounding the same as its blue counterpart, but perhaps it's a part of the answer? You know what would be cool? A tutorial on matching green loops to their preview state. Although the challenge of figuring it out on my own is, I admit, intriguing, it would be great to see an expert such as yourself or Steve H do a few, just so I (we?) could get a feel as to what to listen for, if there's any "go to" plugins that seem to be commonly used, etc. Or maybe I should just man up and go back and experiment until I figure it out on my own. I don't know. In any case, as always, your help is greatly appreciated. It's nice to have this resource. very best, M

Thanks for the link to the MIDI videos. Watched the first few. Looks to me like you and Peter are badly in need of an expensive course of psychiatric treatment. I know a lovely dairy I can recommend. Won't cure, you, of course, but it will give us lower paid workers a good laugh. And loved the SteveH cameo as the keeper of the gorge. Nice touch. And the falling printer. That made me cough up a lung. When I get through with all the tutorials I have now, it's definitely on my list. Moving back to the apple loop I'm trying to recreate, sounds to me like there is some modulation going on in one voice, and a delay effect on the snare. So separate effects applied to different voices. This might take a while...

Thanks, Rounik, I'm playing around. Sounds like a multi-output instantiation of the exs-24, though it comes up as a garageband instrument. Right now I'm working on the noise part. (the C6 in the instrument) (I converted the garage band drums into the equivalent exs-24 instrument and saved it as a new instrument so I can play with it). Also, is there a way to send a single voice to one of the LFOs in the exs-24? Or do you always have to send the entire instrument? Right now I've got a channel EQ with a high pass filter which I'll automate, and I've also got a flanger on the channel strip. The exact loop is: DnB Haunted Beat I'm not even close yet, but what I have so far is kind of interesting. So maybe the moral of the story is that I may stumble onto something I like better, but still would be very grateful if you can give me some pointers as to how more closely approximate the actual loop. Much appreciated. M

Brilliant about the new track dedicated to the noise. That seems like a perfect solution. And brilliant about the rest of it too... So I jacked the tempo up to what the loop was recorded at, and yep, you're right. Very little difference. I didn't even look at the loop before I brought it in, and now I see what I thought was cool effect is the result of slowing down the loop so dramatically. My song tempo is 68. I feel a little foolish. That seems so simple. And, just a guess, the file that plays in the loop preview is the blue, not the green, right? Only if you're bored, and have some time to kill, any suggestions on how I can get some of that artifact-iness into the green track slowed down so dramatically? I find I'm less married to the sound, now that I've discovered what the real cause was, but in the interest of science, and only as a low priority for you, any suggestions on how to reproduce that sound in real time? Thanks for your patience and expertise. very best wishes, M

I'm a broken record: brilliant. Or at least, very much smarter than me. Thanks for your help. best, M